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| misremembered |
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I had stuck up for CK a few minutes ago when someone was asking if anyone could vouch for his identity (still had the post on my clipboard)... He identified himself in this thread. Below is a post by scotth. If you google the email address that is registered to scotth, it is the same Scott Hubbard who writes for Michigan Runner. I'd say that is enough to vouch for both scotth and CK. But I also think the post below implies that CK is or at one time was the author of the Kip article. I need to get hold of the author of the SOKLR blog ASAP!! Please send me an email by clicking on my name. Time to reveal a not very well kept secret that I'm Clarkston Kent - Scott Hubbard. I had plans to write a story about Dr David K Litton for Michigan Runner but...well, a twist has been added to publication. I'm trying to line up contacts for the story and need the email address for SOKLR - thanks in advance. Incidentally, it's probable that Dr L did, indeed, suffer a knee injury 2 days before Cowtown. |
| asdfsdfas |
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You were writing while I posted above you; I'm not the writer. As it's turned out, I've served as a main source for the story. We don't need leads - other than from anybody that knows Kip well. That's lacking. You can raise all the red flags you want - this story isn't predicated (nice use of term by you) on your timeline.[/quote] Why did you not clarify that you are scott h and had initially said you were the writer? That seems like a suspicious oversight. |
| ManiacMansion |
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CK is NOT KL. check https://www.facebook.com/runscott |
| asdfsdfas |
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I get that scott hubbard is not KL, but is CK for sure scott hubbard. On one post he says he is. However since then he has done nothing to affirm that he is scott h - even in the face of a lot of speculation. |
| Fell Runner |
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"We're through the looking glass here people" How do we know that FB page is genuine? |
| scotth |
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An odd post. |
| dd |
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Here's some of what has been deleted. Nothing all that fabulous, but frankly if moderators are going to be deleting stuff for no good reason, might as well make their lives more difficult. Asdfsdfas: Is there something weird on this thread? On my browser I can only get to page 85, but I am sure an hour ago there were 86 pages. Anyone else have this problem me 2: everything that was on page 86 disappeared (got deleted?) misremembered: I had stuck up for CK a few minutes ago when someone was asking if anyone could vouch for his identity (still had the post on my clipboard)... He identified himself in this thread. Below is a post by scotth. If you google the email address that is registered to scotth, it is the same Scott Hubbard who writes for Michigan Runner. I'd say that is enough to vouch for both scotth and CK. But I also think the post below implies that CK is or at one time was the author of the Kip article. I need to get hold of the author of the SOKLR blog ASAP!! Please send me an email by clicking on my name. Time to reveal a not very well kept secret that I'm Clarkston Kent - Scott Hubbard. I had plans to write a story about Dr David K Litton for Michigan Runner but...well, a twist has been added to publication. I'm trying to line up contacts for the story and need the email address for SOKLR - thanks in advance. Incidentally, it's probable that Dr L did, indeed, suffer a knee injury 2 days before Cowtown. dd: Nope, same problem here. I've seen other stuff on here disappear, usually threads about politics, and have assumed moderators deleted the posts. This one seems to have gotten rid of the page where a lot of questions were being raised about clarkson kent- with his previous emails all impying substantial control/ownership of the story, and his recent switch to "I'm not the writer". Add it to the list of odd things about him. haha loosers: Kip and his lawyers own this site now. CK’s fake: Yeah, the missing posts are dd's where he outs Clarkston. What a wierd thread: imposters discussing imposters? It seems the deception is falling apart. Clarkston was a pretty good front. Awesome trolling throughout, if that's how it turns out. |
| asdfsdfas |
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An odd post.[/quote] Scotth always uses his email to post - so this one is likely fake - trolling to increase the mystery. |
| GOML |
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I'm beginning to think that KL and CK are the greatest trolls in the history of letsrun, bar none. |
| ManiacMansion |
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the real CK posted in the beginning (scottH). now it's probably some troll backing KL who's pretending to be CK |
| scotth |
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Some facts: I've been on Kip's trail for the past 22+ months. I've accumulated quite a bit of info about Kip - much of it from the sleuths here on LR. Thanks for the detective work! I had fully expected to write a story about Kip last spring - but my plans changed. Stuff happened and, really, I was happy to hand the story over to somebody else. Why? Because just the thought of writing about the serial cheat turned my stomach - making me want to push the project aside. Part of this is because perhaps I'm too close to the subject, geographically. At any rate, I picked Clarkson Kent as a name to keep some distance between me and others here, feeling that doing so would encourage a freer exchange of info. I believe I succeeded. There are many here that would say, 'If it were me, I'd have written the story long ago!' Well, nothing to stop you. Most of the info is on this thread. Regarding Kip, I've done nothing that any of you couldn't have done. My info gathering & correspondence w/Kip has been standard-issue. Fact is, when I first became aware of Kip's cheating, I had no way of knowing it would become a story -so didn't keep correspondence I wish I had now. It's a fascinating, pathetic tale. One worthy of a longer story than I would've written. And so it shall be. |
| dd |
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Don't know who on this thread to believe- aliases and denials from someone purportedly investigating the cheat, promises that something big is being written but no name/publication date, now you claiming to be clarkson kent and saying that you've "handed the story off to someone else", but a few pages ago you (well, clarkson- maybe you) were writing that you were still trying to get an interview with kip. Hardly sounds like handing it over to someone else. Oh well. Misinformation in a thread about a cheater. Shouldn't be surprised. It really would make a good read, but today has made me even more suspicious that we'll never see this supposed exaustive work. Which is too bad- as long as there is this promised "almost done" piece out there (or maybe not), no other writer is going to want to invest significant time in a project that someone else may be a few keystrokes away from finishing. That's really what irks me- the possibility of nothing coming out of this. If it indeed does get written, I have no issue with however long someone takes to do it. Off to run home. |
| SOKLR |
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As he said, he lives very close to the situation. I believe most of the it started with the Detroit Free Press relay. So my guess is people in the MI running community have known about it for years Also, there are already are a few pieces out there. 1) The Outing of Kip Litton http://www.writingaboutrunning.com/2011/01/outing-of-kip-litton.html 2) KL Blog http://kiplitton.blogspot.com 3) Blog naming to Cheater Hall of Fame http://citycoach.typepad.com/weblog/2011/01/cheaters-hall-of-fame-new-member-1.html |
| SOKLR |
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Also, I dont have the time to look back in this thread, but on earlier pages, a poster close to the situation (possibly CK) stated that he has tried to get in contact with KIP numerous times for some kind of explanation but instead he keeps getting excuses |
| scotth |
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Friend, I can understand your reluctance to believe I'm Clarkston Kent. Sort of. I'm not sure how to assure you - but send me an email if you want to check the veracity of my claim. I stand behind everything I said above about my part in this saga. I write for Michigan Runner and have done so since 1982. Above you can check me out on FB. I never said that I was waiting to have a face-to-face w/Kip. I've never met the guy, never spoken w/him except via email. I wouldn't want a face-to-face because he'd continue making crap up. However, the writer-of-record would like a face-to-face w/Kip - who is understandably reluctant to meet. Kip knows this things is going to blow up - with his participation/side of the story - or not. You needn't worry about 'nothing coming out of this'. It's gonna come out - in its own sweet time. It will be a thorough piece written by a seasoned pro. Others can save themselves energy - asking who, when & what publication. I ain't saying. |
| Jimboo |
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Yeah I am pretty pissed he's entered in at Boston. What qualifying race did he do? |
| SOKLR |
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he has a number of "qualifiers" he could use. My guess he used the 2:49 net at Vermont City marathon (the fastest one I've seen. there was a sub2:50 at Missoula but he was DQ'ed at that one). http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/vermont-city-marathon.html 05/30/10 KeyBank Vermont City Marathon 02:53:36 02:49:02 00:04:34 net difference; 6:11/mi for final 10K Link-VT |
| Ilchester |
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Does this clown where a GPS watch? |
| in Da Cryosauna foooo |
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hahah what's hilarious is that people think that the latest posts by CLarkston Kent are really an undercover KipLitton trying to get himself out of the spotlight by saying an article on this subject is EVENTUALLLLLLLY going to come out. And after God knows how many twist and turns this story has taken over the past 80pages, it's not surprising that someone would suspect this. and yes, it's been like 7 or 8months since we thought a story would be published. but it doesn't seem like this story isn't going to get buried anytime soon. just google the guy's name |
| inDa Cryosauna fooooo |
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No. But every time someone finds out he's racing, it gets posted here and people contact the staff at the racelocation to keep a close eye on him. |
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