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| swedishbasteve |
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That is him all right bandana and everything! |
| Predictions anyone? |
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When is the Kipster running his next race and where? Have we succeeded into scaring him from running a future road race? What say you Kevin 52, Off course oscar, and race detective? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!! |
| Kevin52 |
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Nice work! |
| Study of K.Litton Running |
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no question he's there at the very end. he is cutting diagonally across the road at the very end. RIGHT HERE GUYS: http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/mvp-healthcare-rochester-ny-marathon.html https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrn80sEvZIpCW044pvr50jn9BEplVT8z6eFdqUJasMi7Xcllu77Ge4XjvV_gvejz2okz0crFsI54mABrdBoCrN-orAI1Th5pv6J9goG8G_KBDF7A8jfO6GCaZuf9Bw7D94oEwaycR0uCY7/s1600/kipRochesterSTART.jpg |
| Study of K.Litton Running |
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he isnt really visible until 48-49 secs then he comes in with gold shades cutting diagonally across the road @ ~51secs |
| Race detective |
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Here are some more back-of-the-pack starts with decent placements: 1) BAA 5K 2009 (4/19/09) 2:56 start delay. 18:52. 91st of 3524 finishers. His start delay in the results sticks out like a sore thumb: http://www.coolrunning.com/results/09/ma/Apr19_BAA5K_set1.shtml 2) Detroit Free Press 5K (10/29/06) 2:18 start delay. 19:15. 6th of 10726 finishers. Masters winner. Start delay is more consistent with those finishing at 28 minutes and slower, not someone trying to win the masters division. http://results.active.com/pages/oneResult.jsp?pID=16054571&rsID=34701&pubID=3 3) Detroit Free Press Marathon (10/21/07) 3:00 start delay. 2:50:57. http://results.active.com/pages/oneResult.jsp?pID=32210270&rsID=49343&pubID=3 Would have placed him 30th of 3746 finishers: http://www.athlinks.com/time.aspx?ecid=28614 But ... he doesn't appear in the results, and you won't find this performance in his athlinks.com list. (I found it in his active.com list - 82 race results.) This looks like an actual DQ that we haven't had in our list before. He missed the half marathon mat, and comparing his closest splits to others running similar chip or gun times, he would have had to have run splits of 1:35/1:16. Good catch by the race directors. |
| Vertigo |
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We need to decide on a definition for the term "kipping" (v. to kip) as in "kipping The Crim in '10" or "he kipped that one for sure". Is it: a)Cheated by course cutting, driving between mats, using assistants or any similar means.(more generic option) b) Fabricated the race and results in their entirety. (specific to KL, as this is his "pioneering" effort in the cheating arena) |
| swedishbasteve |
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Both a) and b) qualify, as there is no "real" length that Kip wouldn't go to cheat. This is his world, we just live in it. |
| Zapruder |
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This just looks all around goofy. Can a 19:15 really get you 6th place in a 5K with over 10000 finishers? Assuming it can, how the hell could you run that fast while trying to pass thousand of people in a 5K. Everything points at cheating in almost every race review in detail. But, it is possible to start way back in a small marathon and pass everyone. I don't buy in in a race that lasts only 5K with this many finishers.
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| Vertigo |
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Maybe a) can be "kipping" and b) can be "going/doing the Full Litton" |
| swedishbasteve |
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c) Littonizing the start/course. |
| swedishbasteve |
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c) Littonizing the start/course.[/quote] As far as I could tell, he littonized the entire event! |
| Study of K.Litton Running |
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Litton timeline v5 http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/kip-litton-timeline-v5.html |
| Kevin52 |
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I ran that race (in that age group), it was my 4th marathon and Mr. Alfonso worked at my employer at that time. I know I spoke with him afterward but honestly I don't recall if he finished "2nd" initially. And wouldn't you know it, that is one race I didn't make notes about how I finished because I got a side stitch, slowed into the wind and missed my goal. I was unhappy and just moved on. It was windy that day with a 20 mph headwind the last 3 miles. I bet I can dig up an email for Albert Alfonso and he should remember vividly as he was from Clarkston too. Dukerdog may know him better than I do though so maybe he will jump in if he does. http://results.active.com/pages/displayNonGru.jsp?pubID=3&rsID=49347 MALE AGE GROUP: 45 - 49 Place Oall No. Name City Sta Ag Uw_mile 7.4 Mi Half 17.4 Mi 20.4 Mi Guntm Time Pace ===== ==== ====== ====================== ================= === == ======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ===== 1 34 2483 Albert Alfonso Clarkston MI 48 5:44 44:18 1:20:43 1:46:24 2:06:21 2:52:18 2:52:15 6:35 2 35 1287 Steven Sciance Troy MI 46 46:53 1:25:05 1:50:57 2:10:57 2:52:23 2:52:21 6:35 3 57 1375 Larry Gutierrez Fenton MI 46 6:02 46:50 1:25:48 1:52:53 2:13:55 2:58:02 2:57:51 6:47 4 59 1170 Bill Kotaska St. Louis MO 45 6:05 47:33 1:27:00 1:54:04 2:14:37 2:58:37 2:58:31 6:49 5 71 2825 Dave Wolbert Flint MI 48 6:06 46:56 1:26:45 1:54:09 2:14:56 3:01:24 3:01:19 6:55 6 79 1975 Ward McGinn Brighton MI 45 6:20 48:52 1:29:21 1:56:34 2:17:09 3:03:42 3:03:39 7:01 7 120 99 Mark Martinez Walled Lake MI 47 6:13 48:34 1:29:53 1:59:01 2:20:57 3:08:57 3:08:55 7:13 8 145 2462 David Dwornick Brownstown MI 49 6:34 49:25 1:30:50 1:59:36 2:21:58 3:11:36 3:11:35 7:19 9 147 743 Kurt Schneider Harper Woods MI 48 6:22 48:53 1:29:46 1:59:34 2:22:35 3:11:47 3:11:44 7:19 10 149 7323 Francisco Marin Chicago IL 48 6:53 52:40 1:35:23 2:03:50 2:25:17 3:12:13 3:11:53 7:20 |
| Kip Litton #1 Fan |
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You guys are all full of shit. You have no proof this stand-up gentleman is guilty of any of this crap you're accusing him of. I hope you all get sued into 3rd world poverty for slander. |
| long sox |
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no question he's there at the very end. he is cutting diagonally across the road at the very end. RIGHT HERE GUYS: http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/mvp-healthcare-rochester-ny-marathon.html https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrn80sEvZIpCW044pvr50jn9BEplVT8z6eFdqUJasMi7Xcllu77Ge4XjvV_gvejz2okz0crFsI54mABrdBoCrN-orAI1Th5pv6J9goG8G_KBDF7A8jfO6GCaZuf9Bw7D94oEwaycR0uCY7/s1600/kipRochesterSTART.jpg[/quote] Great find - appears to be same shoes and shorts as later in the race, but looks like different top covering his black shirt and did he change hats or is it just poor quality video makes it look different. Here he is later in the race. http://www.brightroom.com/view_user_event.asp?EVENTID=61901&PWD=&BIB=302 |
| swedishbasteve |
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
| swedishbasteve |
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!![/quote] What would be the damages? Are we ruining his pro running career? |
| swedishbasteve |
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Hey! I think that guy just kipped the course! He should be DQed!999 |
| Kip "K" |
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