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friend of a friend
RE: Earlier races 1/17/2011 11:29PM - in reply to friend of a friendReply | Return to Index | Report Post
friend of a friend
RE: Earlier races 1/17/2011 11:31PM - in reply to friend of a friendReply | Return to Index | Report Post
More Northville solstice run

out of focus distant photo at beginning of mystery runner (over right shoulder of Michigan guy) with no bib, black shirt with white lettering over the heart (i think i have seen one like that somewhere recently), baseball cap and what appear to be yellow tinted sunglasses

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?62
friend of a friend
RE: Earlier races 1/17/2011 11:31PM - in reply to friend of a friendReply | Return to Index | Report Post
last of the northville solstice run

Surprised to see him in a series of 4 pictures on the course. Not sure where this is. Maybe someone who knows the course can tell us if it is near the end. The fifth picture below was taken in the same spot - it shows more of the background for context.

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?291

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?292

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?293

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?294

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?478
MC
RE: Earlier races 1/17/2011 11:42PM - in reply to dukerdogReply | Return to Index |Report Post

dukerdog wrote:

Rich Rodriquez's first race?

http://www.runmichigan.com/results/full.php/2008/09/13/y-back-to-school.html

No pictures for this one I don't think. Does anybody know Joe Gonzales from Birmingham, who finished right behind Kip?


From Athlinks--maybe some other earlier ones of his??? they're in Ohio--not far from him but far enough that no one would know him.

Racing For Recovery Halloween 5K
10/22/06 bib 280 2/180 18:27

Dave's Ohio Michigan 4 Mile Run
7/23/06 22/134 23:20

Glass City Marathon
4/10/05 bib 3159 27/433 3:04:27

Ohio Michigan Four Mile Run
7/25/04 bib 865 31/397 22:47

I can't find any pictures that old but I'm addicted to this thread & trying to figure out if he was Kipping yet back then or if there just happens to be a fast runner from Ohio named Rich Rodriguez...
Zapruder
RE: Earlier races 1/17/2011 11:46PM - in reply to friend of a friendReply | Return to Index | Report Post
Another nice find, starting with multiple shirts (or was one stashed for a switch?) and wearing a hat and not breaking a sweat. The same MO, over and over. At least he has gotten a lot of wear out of that hat and shirt.


friend of a friend wrote:

More Northville solstice run

out of focus distant photo at beginning of mystery runner (over right shoulder of Michigan guy) with no bib, black shirt with white lettering over the heart (i think i have seen one like that somewhere recently), baseball cap and what appear to be yellow tinted sunglasses

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?62
MC
RE: Earlier races1/17/2011 11:46PM - in reply toMCReply | Return to Index | Report Post
oh and the above results were all from searching under "Rich Rodriguez" in Athlinks:
http://www.athlinks.com/myresults.aspx?rid=15454441
friend of a friend
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 12:11AM- in reply to MCReply|Return to Index|Report Post
most likely the rich rod thing didn't start until 08 when the real rich rod was hired at UM. presumably would not have been on the radar before then.
possible legit race
RE: Earlier races 1/18/2011 12:38AM - in reply tofriend of a friendReply | Return to Index |Report Post
2010 Maine Half Marathon
Sun, Oct 3, 2010
Race Time: 1:28:14

Picture at the finish, breaking a sweat:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mainerunningphotos/5064521126/in/set-72157625124851882/
Very disappointed
RE: Earlier races 1/18/2011 1:01AM - in reply to friend of a friendReply | Return to Index | Report Post

friend of a friend wrote:

last of the northville solstice run

Surprised to see him in a series of 4 pictures on the course. Not sure where this is. Maybe someone who knows the course can tell us if it is near the end. The fifth picture below was taken in the same spot - it shows more of the background for context.

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?291
http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?292
http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?293
http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?294
http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?478


I ran that Solstice race, and know that course well.

The pictures here are coming down the final part of Dunlop street (in front of the CVS, for those that know Northville. To the runners' right is the parking behind the Great Harvest Bread Co.) as you approach the park. These pictures are about 0.3 mile from the finish.

The other pictures you posted from the Solstice 10k were from the start (on the Northville Downs racetrack), and at the finish (Ford Field Park).

That course would be so, so very easy to cut. I imagine at most he ran the first half mile around the horsetrack, then broke off soon after that. The race course then heads out of town. Kip could have made his way about 1/4-1/2 mile up through the downtown to jump in the last 1/2-3/4 mile of the race. Several turns would have allowing him to jump in. My guess would be betweeen Main, Rogers, and Dunlop. He probably had plenty of time to grab a beverage downtown Northville while he was waiting.

I'm going to look a little closer at this one. For one, I know there was a photographer just as you hit Center Street (about 3/4 into the race), and I'm guessing Kippy broke off before that.
The Saint
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 1:05AM - in reply toVery disappointedReply|Return to Index|Report Post
Seriously, youguys really need to find a hobby.
Very disappointed
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 1:09AM - in reply toVery disappointedReply|Return to Index|Report Post
Also, forgot to mention about the Solstice '09. For one, that course is extremely hilly and difficult. Second, it was very warm and humid in 2009. Most good runners I know that ran that day were 1-2 minutes slower than their typical 10k times. A 37:14 for Kipper on that day and that course? Haha, add this one to the bullsh*t pile.
swedishbasteve
RE: Earlier races 1/18/2011 1:26AM - in reply to ZapruderReply | Return to Index | Report Post

Zapruder wrote:

Another nice find, starting with multiple shirts (or was one stashed for a switch?) and wearing a hat and not breaking a sweat. The same MO, over and over. At least he has gotten a lot of wear out of that hat and shirt.

[quote]friend of a friend wrote:

More Northville solstice run

out of focus distant photo at beginning of mystery runner (over right shoulder of Michigan guy) with no bib, black shirt with white lettering over the heart (i think i have seen one like that somewhere recently), baseball cap and what appear to be yellow tinted sunglasses

http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?62
[/quote]

He not in photos 65 through 251
Very disappointed
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 1:28AM - in reply toVery disappointedReply|Return to Index|Report Post
Photographer didn't finish taking shots on Center Street, so that's inconclusive.

Kip "finished" 9th, and there was a huge gap betwee 8th place at 35:55, and 10th place at 37:51. Best opportunity to jump in would be there.
Eat Ya Wheaties
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 1:42AM - in reply toThe SaintReply|Return to Index|Report Post
Ahhh, c'mon Kippy, you had your fun, now it's our turn :)




The Saint wrote:

Seriously, you guys really need to find a hobby.
Kevin52
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 5:35AM - in reply toThe SaintReply|Return to Index|Report Post

The Saint wrote:

Seriously, you guys really need to find a hobby.


Digital Photography is my hobby.





Isn't it a wonderful thing?
pot calling the kettle black
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 5:46AM - in reply toThe SaintReply|Return to Index|Report Post
I love posts like this. You take the time to read a thread and then show your hypocrisy by posting in hopes to make others feel bad (it won't work) and yourself feel better (you're insecure). You must spend a lot of time on LR. Do YOU need a hobby? Why post?
off course Oscar
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 5:51AM - in reply toVery disappointedReply|Return to Index|Report Post
Correct, very, very easy course to jump in and great find. Sure he was way back and ran SO FAST that no one was talking about this guy passing people from 1 mile till the finish. As I said, what race has actually been "proven" to be real? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Lone gunman
RE: Earlier races 1/18/2011 8:20AM - in reply to MCReply | Return to Index | Report Post
As the onion layers peel away, I looked up the Rich Rodriguez Glass City marathon result - I ran that one ironically. The RR that was in that race was prob the anchor of a 5 person relay named Team Dads America. The team did not place amongst that top relays.

http://www.toledoroadrunners.org/results/results2005/2005_gcm_marathon.htm

So, while interesting, probably nothing here, though it is cool how someone posting has run or seen almost all of these races.
Limp Kitten
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 9:14AM - in reply to Lone gunmanReply |Return to Index |Report Post
As was stated earlier, it has kind of been a sidebar to the story that it would be very difficult to run these kind of times while starting at the back of the back. I'm going to state my opinion that in the larger races, it wouldnt be very difficult, it would be nearly impossible.

Next time your at a crowded stadium for asporting event, try to make good time walking fast through the crowd...its just not reasonable to believe that this can occur. Sure its no smoking gun, but combine this with all of the other evidence and it helps to paint the picture even clearer. We have now uncovered photographs of KL running sideways across the running path...essentially this would mean that he is running farther than the set race distance. This would imply that he was running even faster than what his times show.

I hope the evidence continues to mount, it really has went from a story of someone cutting some corners, to bordering on pure insanity.
Kyp Lyttyn
RE: Earlier races1/18/2011 9:40AM - in reply toLimp KittenReply|Return to Index|Report Post
As we hit the thousandth post in this thread, I wonder if Kip will ever race again? Or for the first time might be a better question?

There doesn't seem to be a conclusively legitimate performance out there that would indicate he's capable of a sub 3:00 marathon. My bet is he won't risk running again and proving that he's just another aging 21 5Ker and 3:30 marathoner. Or maybe he'll switch to becoming a new Richard Rodriguez type character on a permanent basis, but think the days of racer Kip are done.
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