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| solooo |
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Odd that almost no one in the WWM ran to the finish line with someone. Almost every single runner was in no man's land. |
| Study of K.Litton Running |
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meta name="Author" content="Ben Millefoglie" |
| Kyp Lyttyn |
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I just sent an e-mail to Marathon Guide informing them that they have been duped into posting results for races that never existed and suggesting that they read through this thread starting on page 14. Gotta imagine they'll be pretty damned surprised. |
| solooo |
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Also odd: both the race director at WWM and the race director at Sandy Springs have generic @live email addresses with their middle initial and last name in it. |
| solooo |
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Hit the view source of the rrrodriguez email and see where the originating IP address is from... probably Michigan. |
| cpr |
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The reason for so many domains poiting to the same IP: Cheap webspace is always on a "shared host". This means you do not have a webserver, but you rent some GB on a webserver. I believe thta sub-par webdesigner is not capable of administrating an own webserver, so (e.g. for security reasons) he relies on "shared hosting". Nothing wrong with that. 1and1 then routes requests for "his" domains to a folder on one of their servers, with a "quota"-limit of the alloted GB in size. The webserver software, e.g. "Apache", knows how to recognize domain-specific requests. It acts as a "virtual host", instead of ye olde ways where the domain name system routed http requests to a default folder on a server-identified-by-an-IP. NEVERTHELESS these source-code hints of meta-tag-author and software used are sufficiently convincing. Just don't waste time with all the non-running content, I'd say this is explainably irrelevant.
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| Study of K.Litton Running |
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did Kip copy HTML code from Ben Millefoglie? is that why the author is listed as Ben? |
| Nah |
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Ask him why the website has been taken down. |
| cpr |
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Possible, but unlikely. Less impossible is he bought a computer containing the software from him with access to his "Documents and Settings"-User. I did not check th software that was used, but these settings are a) entered by the oh-so-proud webdesigner into the software and b) stored in that particular users "Documents and Settings" (sub)folder. More likely it is another fake name. A web designer oh-so-proud-with-author-meta-tag (almost as lame as Comic Sans Serif type) will also proudly shows his client list online -- there is no convincing list of him anywhere. (Even more, who in the business has in 2010+ not written an own shinycontentmanagmentsystem?) Anybody dare to guess how many fake friend our serial cheater has on FB? |
| long sox |
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The timing also matches the period when the "Kip Litten Returns" thread was active on letsrun - from google cache we can see people posting in the first page of that thread on the 17th and 18th of December, so that might have been motivation to create those pages. Perhaps the "race director" decided it was a good time to document those races. |
| newspaper reporter |
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Quick database searches, for what it's worth: There is no Donna Dixon, between ages 37-39, living in a 30-mile radius of San Francisco. ... There are several Sue or Susan Johnsons, between ages 28-31, in a 30-mile radius of Minneapolis ... Kevin Leddy actually exists. Direct hit on him. |
| Lance Palmer |
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What about Ben Millefoglie? Is he real?
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| newspaper reporter |
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Yes, Bennett John Millefoglie shows up. He's 55 and lives in Davison, MI |
| ouch1000 |
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Help me!! I have some good crack cocaine to smoke, and I can't seem to tear myself away from this thread to get my fix. Seriously, this is the most bizarre running story I have ever read by an order of magnitude. I can't imagine that Running Times or Runner's World wouldn't pick this up - or at least the Weekly World News! A recent poster mentioned that they e-mailed the CFF chapter. Someone needs to call Cathy Zell, the Director. Perhaps I need to stop waiting for the next post and actually do it myself. I haven't left my computer in three days, so it would be good for me... |
| MC |
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LOL. same, I think I'm wearing out my f5 key... I have trouble sleeping at night because I keep waking up and laughing about this thread |
| agip |
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It feels like there will be a giant twist in the end - like in a Paul Auster novel when everything becomes clear with a wicked turn o' the world. Let's hope it doesn't involve a glock. |
| Just Wow |
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What do you bet this guy starts going by "david" in a big hurry. This will distance him professionally from his scams. I think an interesting investigation could be made into whether or not he was skimming donations on worldrecordrun. i.e. passing only a portion of donations on to CFF. Looks like a any other scam - works great for a while but it keeps getting more and more tangled to keep it going. (Gotta feed the monkey, man) Then all of the sudden it unravels. (I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling LRers!) |
| tin arm |
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Does anyone else want to tell the whole world about this but don't really know how? Hey friends, read through this 20 page message board thread. No, I'm the only one I know that is nerdy enough to read this like a book. |
| solved before dinnertime |
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Well the html code was generated automatically by google from the pdf that was on the website (you can see the original link is to a pdf). So no, I don't think html was copied by anyone. Also other tags in the html source show that Word 2007 was used. So maybe it was composed in Word and then saved to a pdf file? If that is the case, then the author info probably comes from what was entered as a name when Word was installed on the computer. I guess the main point is this name connects two different "low key local races" which really should have nothing to do with eachother, and the name is also connected to KL (based on what others have said about a facebook connection) and Davison (based on google search). |
| fbstalker |
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Obviously someone with a website soliciting donations for his marathon quest isn't bashful. You would think somewhere during the year he'd mention his quest on FB. Or mention each marathon he runs, you know especially one he won. For the amount of detail you can find about his summer trip (which does appear to have been in and around WY in July) I didn't see anything about running a marathon. Pretty sure that if I was on vacation and took the time to mention having a snowball fight in the summer I just might mention WINNING a marathon during the same trip. |
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