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Almostbq |
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This is correct. While I have never officially met CK, I know who he is and have seen him at many local races. He has been consistently involved in the local running scene. By contrast Kip rarely runs the small local races in the last few years - likely about the time the cheating started.[/quote] What were the circumstances of Kip being monitored up at the Maine marathon? Did an individual or a group of individuals from letsrun go to Maine and announce to Kip that they were going to be watching him (prompting his last minute switch and apparently legitimate completion of the half instead)? Is Kip possibly running races under an alias now? He hasn't run anything as himself since Thunder Road marathon last December. |
ouch1000 |
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I'll also vouch for Clarkston Kent. I've never mit him, but I've exchanged numerous e-mails with him over the past year. I also know about the story being written, as I've been extensively interviewed by the writer. He was an excellent interviewer - very thorough, eminently fair and meticulous in how he constructed his understanding of the events in this saga. It would be really nice if the writer could get Kip's own story from him in person, as this would allow him to defend himself. It would also make the story much, much more compelling however it comes out. But this won't happen until Kip gets brave and talks to the reporter in person. He really has nothing to lose in being interviewed, and everything to gain. Hoping for the best... |
Junk Master |
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When is the story coming out then? |
Clarkston Kent |
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Soon. |
pretty saddddd |
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I too am from Michigan. Watch him make money off cheating. Truly sad. |
dd |
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Soon.[/quote] Well, I'll read it with interest when/if it comes out- whatever "soon" means. I honestly wish you well on this, and think it will make for a fascinating read. Those that know you in person may know that you're the type who will certainly follow through, but for the rest of us you can't be surprised that there is a healthyamount of scepticism that this is going to lead to anything, since you're just another anonymous poster on a message board. I'm still guessing I'll never see this piece, but again, I'll be happy to be wrong. |
road rashed |
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Bad news folks, Kip Litton is back on the Boston Entrants list |
Clarkston Kent |
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For the time being, I choose to remain pseudo-anonymous on this board. You are skeptical? Why? I've said nothing to make you feel that way. Anyway, it WILL be a fascinating read. Suspect I'll be woven into the story to a significant degree & you'll see it - I'll give fair notice of its publication. |
InWyo |
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Pleas let there be someone on this thread who's running Boston and can take this guy down. He is on the official entrants list: http://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/participant-information/entrants.aspx |
Kipplyton |
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Not necessarily a bad thing. I bet a lot of people will have their eyes out for him. I wonder if the Kipster has any running friends? I am also from Michigan and live fairly close to his listed town. Kip is a punchline among the runners I know. |
SOKLR |
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ClarkstonKent is on facebook. I believe he is a member of the Study of KLitton Blog facebook group. I think he's known Kip since the beginning of the cheating because he's active in the local road race community where Kip lives. I've communicated with him via email. So bottom line is that he's real, and he's NOT Kip. |
SOKLR |
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2012 BOSTON MARATHON ENTRY LISTS BIB WAVE/ CORRAL NAME AGE M/F CITY ST CTRY CTZ Litton, Kip 50 M Davison MI USA USA |
dd |
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Why am I skeptical? You mean beyond the fact that you're a total unknown to me? I hardly think that's overly suspicious. Other reasons: the continued "coming soon, be patient" comments, the fact that you're reportedly holding up publishing to get his story (when most would give him a reasonable time, and then proceed), and that this whole issue is about cheating/misrepresentation. I guess I'd be shocked if people weren't skiptical- ang aain, you may very well be a completely honest guy, waiting to add the final detail to your story. But, until you deliver, I (and I suspect others) will be unconvinced. On a related note- do you have any concerns that someone else has noticed this huge thread on a popular website, and is going to beat you to this? I write for a completely different audience (medical journals), and one of the things that is always a wild-card is that your study gets preempted by a similar one and makes your own report far less novel. |
Junk Master |
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I just can't get over Kip running Boston. Ready the compression sock salvo. |
CH |
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Clarkston Kent is not Kip. I've met CK once years ago at a local race (he wouldn't remember), and we have mutual friends (one of whom I worked with on the Kip Litton Marathon Prediction Contest...you can read about it in previous postings on this thread). While it may add a layer of crazy to an already unbelievable story, this is a non-issue. I'm eager to read the full article, and trust that when it is published, it will be worth the wait. On a side note, I'm not optimistic Kip will be running Boston in 2012. I suspect someone will notify the BAA about him, his questionable qualifying time, and they'll yank his spot. For now, they probably are preoccupied with the registration process, but once things settle down, they'll give it the attention it deserves. |
Clarkston Kent |
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I'm not writing the story. Never said I was. Which segues nicely into your 2nd paragraph - it's being written by somebody else who has done their homework on the story. The homework is nearly complete. Per Kip at Boston, somehow I don't see that happening. But that's just me. |
Er... |
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I've read this entire thread and contributed occasionally and I too am skeptical of Clarkston Kent, for many of the same reasons dd listed below. I don't think CK and Kip are one and the same but I do think many of your posts are odd, CK. I think my skepticism is predicated more than anything on the anonymity and the constant requests for patience. Were you a reputable or established writer working on a legitimate piece for publication I would expect you to identify yourself and include a request for information or solid leads to help your story. I don't expect you to be able to name the intended place of publication necessarily, but unless what you're working on is less than what many of us are expecting, the anonymity and delays are red flags.
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me two |
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CK is not Kip. Two different people. My question is this a legitimate request?? And if so, why the aol.com address and lack of identifying information of the author or publication? He's obviously already identified himself to Kip if he's requested interviews. Why the need for further secrecy? If this was not the posted by the writer, then who was it? |
misrememberes |
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I must have misremembered, I thought CK was scotth and that he was writing this story for "Michigan Runner". But really, "Quite a story" is the author, and he is writing it for an as-of-yet unnamed Major Publication. Well, I for one, can't wait (but will). |
Clarkston Kent |
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You were writing while I posted above you; I'm not the writer. As it's turned out, I've served as a main source for the story. We don't need leads - other than from anybody that knows Kip well. That's lacking. You can raise all the red flags you want - this story isn't predicated (nice use of term by you) on your timeline. |
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